, that was -- let's bring everybody in and we are going to come to this conclusion. nonetheless, he was talking to mitch mcconnell, he is the one that made that happen. the interesting play to me is these are roles that president obama has given him to elevate him. >> exactly. >> that is interesting to me just as we look forward to the next four years. >> how did the justice, sonia sotomayor do? >> looked flawless to me. you saw she had written it out and she had written it out with the pauses indicated. that's the way to do it safely. you saw how long it was. no one could possibly memorize that. the interesting question, and i don't know the answer, is will chief justice roberts will have a card? will he surrender his famous memory? he has very famous memory, and just do it with a card or will he try again without a card and see how that goes? >> i don't think he should take any risks. >> my guess is he is a very proud man. my guess is he will not have a card, dole it from memory again. but he will have made clear this time, unlike last time, to the president where the pauses are going to be.